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^eagle^
10-22-2008, 06:50 PM
Ok me , Earl and Short14 Are the only ones crazy enough to try these multiple trades strategy so I decided to name it the Supercharger!

I own a truck with a supercharger and basically it sucks in more air giving my truck extra get up and go.

That is what we have done to FAP.

Here's how it works:

After you have loaded FAP you input these settings.

lots =1/10th of whatever you are comfortable trading with (<.1% of your account balance)
Maximum open trades=10
If you want to be more conservative Lower your number of trades and riase your lot size proportionately.
Experiment with lot sizes and trade numbers to you find what is comfortable for you.
Stop time=1

Now the aaa bbb settings are still up for debate
I personally think the defaults are fine because market conditions change. They are in constant flux and past performance does not guarantee future returns. The only true testing is forward testing.
If you want optimized settings I'm sure earl will supply them here:p

Now the stop loss question.....

This is strictly how well you can tolerate risk. I personally cannot sleep at night without one. I have set it to 350. My reasoning is that the eur/usd ranges at this level when it is in consolidation. This is when FAPSC makes the most money.

Price action consists of the following...

60% of the time the market is in consolidation
20% of the time the market is channelling up or down.
20% or less of the time the market makes huge moves up or down.


This last time is the time the stop losses are hit the rest of the time it is just a safety measure.

IOW Stop losses do not get hit over 80% of the time the market is moving. Mathematically you will win out by the shear number of winning trades over the few but larger losses.


Once FAPSC is up and running there are a few rules to follow.

If you get too many longs or shorts you will become unhedged. This is known as "hitting the wall". What that means is that your margin level increases and put you in danger of a margin call. You also have 8 or more trades open and are not making any money. You can remedy this by
a) going all long if you have a lot of open shorts or viceversa.
b) Manually closing out your biggest losers to free up new trades

A gauge to measure how far you are from "the wall" is your margin percentage. A conservative margin is 1000% or higher. A more agressive approach is to go as low as 250% but that requires more risk.

For End of month closeout strategies:
a) Just let it close out and wipe the slate clean
b) "jump" the end of the month by shutting down on the last trading day BEFORE market close Then restarting it on the second trading day of the month. (use your MT4 platform time and date)
c) Shut off the Supercharger a few days before the end of the month and coast into next month before firing it up again.

I'm working on an easy to understand forecasting tool to allow you to know when to coast and when to put the pedal to the medal. Stay tuned!

Earl
10-22-2008, 07:51 PM
my setting do not change how faps picks their entry points

it only tells it to trade more and faster...

eagle get rid of all the other currency pairs you have...and trade 10 on eurusd and 10 on gbpusd...plug and play the tweeks I made...you'll be at 1000 by the end of the week....LOL

if you really want to know whats going on...add a good MACD and a ADX to your charts...it really shows which way the trade is running...

I've played for a month now I'm down to start making some real good money with my friends here on the forum...

^eagle^
10-22-2008, 09:08 PM
my setting do not change how faps picks their entry points

it only tell it to trade more and faster...

eagle get rid of all the other currency pairs you have...and trade 10 on eurusd and 10 on gbpusd...plug and play the tweeks I made...you'll be at 1000 by the end of the week....LOL

if you really want to know whats going on...add a good MACD and a ADX to your charts...it really shows which way the trade is running...

I've played for a month now I'm down to start making some real good money with my friends here on the forum...
Also add fractals, the alligator and the 100 SMA and you have FAP in a nutshell. When they all line up you get a trade signal.

I was at 1100 but got stopped out. Now I am at 760 and climbing. That is 100% ROI in four weeks. Short results were the same as yours with default settings over the consolidation.

I'm quite happy with my settings. We'll see in the long run how we fare.:)

What we really need is to crack the FAP code
add the supercharger
Take off the month end closeout
add a margin altimeter
add a trade direction navigator

That would be the ultimate EA.

Earl
10-22-2008, 09:13 PM
I'm up to 1200 from 800 late monday...

thats 400 bucks...faps is killing it....

more trades faster faster faster...

I back tested my results from 2007 ...setting still work great

^eagle^
10-24-2008, 05:23 PM
I'm up to 1200 from 800 late monday...

thats 400 bucks...faps is killing it....

more trades faster faster faster...

I back tested my results from 2007 ...setting still work great

Back testing is not one hundred percent fool proof

First you can only backtest using a five minute chart. That's five 1m candles added together which will give the chart a completely different meaning.

I'm glad you are making money. But too much relying on the EA is risky.

I know you tolerate risk well so good luck. If you make a million before I do I Will buy you a beer.

Deal?

Earl
10-24-2008, 05:36 PM
Back testing is not one hundred percent fool proof

First you can only backtest using a five minute chart. That's five 1m candles added together which will give the chart a completely different meaning.

I'm glad you are making money. But too much relying on the EA is risky.

I know you tolerate risk well so good luck. If you make a million before I do I Will buy you a beer.

Deal?Naw man I've just been having fun....I've worked on this faps thing and I'm right back to where I began.

but from this point I'm going to make money.

my 10 grand account is running well....my wife has that all locked up so I can't touch it...

my 1000 dollar account has been around the world this month, but is now sitting at 1300

in my job I make anywhere from 500 to 2000 dollars a day... I live in 1.5 million dollar home.....trust me 1000 or even 10000 is just play money...it can't help me it can't hurt me....my heating bill is sometimes 1000 per month...LOL

I have a 100 000 invested with a forex club which I am going to pull out.

if I lose 100k that would hurt...but I wouldn't die...LOL


good luck man...we all need it

^eagle^
10-24-2008, 06:24 PM
Naw man I've just been having fun....I've worked on this faps thing and I'm right back to where I began.

but from this point I'm going to make money.

my 10 grand account is running well....my wife has that all locked up so I can't touch it...

my 1000 dollar account has been around the world this month, but is now sitting at 1300

in my job I make anywhere from 500 to 2000 dollars a day... I live in 1.5 million dollar home.....trust me 1000 or even 10000 is just play money...it can't help me it can't hurt me....my heating bill is sometimes 1000 per month...LOL

I have a 100 000 invested with a forex club which I am going to pull out.

if I lose 100k that would hurt...but I wouldn't die...LOL


good luck man...we all need it
you're a wild man, maverick! I agree that the settings need to be adjusted to make some cash. But when it starts running wild You gotta reign that puppy in. No set it and forget it settings are gong to take effect while you are turniing out 10 trades in an hour.

Thank you for reviving my hedging strategy. I tried this with the old EA but the damn thing just was all buy buy BUY! so I scrapped it. I knew it would be a good system with the right EA.:)

Earl
10-24-2008, 06:45 PM
experience is what we are gaining....

playing with REAL Money!

you can't buy this.....

to bad to all those people that love conventional trading...

1 trade 1 win

I'm anything but..

alan
10-24-2008, 10:58 PM
experience is what we are gaining....

playing with REAL Money!

you can't buy this.....

to bad to all those people that love conventional trading...

1 trade 1 win

I'm anything but..

hehe...you give me the impression that you'd love grid trading...look into that..talk about amplifying both risk and reward..