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Short14
11-09-2008, 09:45 PM
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Earl
11-09-2008, 09:50 PM
We all know how we got killed at the end of the month of October...
I have been testing from 9/29 through 11/7 because that is when I was trading and lost my ass... This is using $3000.00 as the account balance..

These are 6 different trades / settings / profits

Time Chart ...........M5 Same
Test amount.......... $3000.00 Same
Lot size ................ 0 Same 03 0
Max orders ........... 1 1 2
Lots Reductor ........4 4
Take Profit ............ 20 20 30 30 30 30 30
Stop Loss .............250 350 350 0 0 0 0
Trailing Stop...........50 0 50 0 0 0 0
aaa .................... 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
bbb .................... 8 8 8 8 8 8 8
Profit................8181.02 8149.66 8157.40 8457.40 8861.76 3500.00 23,151.21

I know its kind of hard to read hope it makes sense...ouch you gave me an eye ache:eek:..LOL

what did you use to get 23,151.21 I like that one...LOL no s/l I bet

Short14
11-09-2008, 10:19 PM
[QUOTE=Earl;1536]ouch you gave me an eye ache:eek:..LOL

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Nelstradamus
11-09-2008, 10:39 PM
5 Minutes (M5) 2008.09.29 00:00 - 2008.11.06 23:55 (2008.09.29 - 2008.11.07)
Model Every tick (the most precise method based on all available least timeframes)
Parameters Lots=0; LotsRiskReductor=10; MaxOrders=1; MaxLots=6; StopTime=1; aaa=20; bbb=8; TakeProfit=20; StopLoss=350; TrailingStop=0; UseMAControl=1; PeriodMA=100; PriceMA_0_6=0; TypeMA_0_3=0; SpanGator=0.5; SlipPage=3; OrderMagic=231313; SafetyGapDemarker=0.2; SafetyGapWPR=0; StartWorkTimeHour=0; StartWorkTimeMin=0; EndWorkTimeHour=0; EndWorkTimeMin=0;
Bars in test 9265 Ticks modelled 722445 Modelling quality 90.00%
Mismatched charts errors 0
Initial deposit 3000.00
Total net profit 46959.12 Gross profit 95434.14 Gross loss -48475.02
Profit factor 1.97 Expected payoff 366.87
Absolute drawdown 570.80 Maximal drawdown 42190.60 (68.79%) Relative drawdown 68.79% (42190.60)
Total trades 128 Short positions (won %) 117 (96.58%) Long positions (won %) 11 (90.91%)
Profit trades (% of total) 123 (96.09%) Loss trades (% of total) 5 (3.91%)
Largest profit trade 1200.00 loss trade -21372.00
Average profit trade 775.89 loss trade -9695.00
Maximum consecutive wins (profit in money) 76 (56193.08) consecutive losses (loss in money) 1 (-21372.00)
Maximal consecutive profit (count of wins) 56193.08 (76) consecutive loss (count of losses) -21372.00 (1)


My apologies for the above mess, I couldn't figure out how to make it look good without staying up all night. I started with $3k and net profit was 46959.12 during the same period of time. I'd settle for that.

Between the handful of people back testing and posting the results you've really helped me find good settings, and I'm sure it's helped many others as well. Thank you!

Earl
11-09-2008, 10:40 PM
Time Chart ...........M5
Test amount.......... $3000.00
Lot size ................ 0
Max orders ........... 2
Lots Reductor ........4
Take Profit ............ 30
Stop Loss .............0
Trailing Stop...........0
aaa .................... 20
bbb .................... 8
Profit....................23,151.21

There you go Earl ( Easier on your eyes ? )
These settings carried through that massive downturn, Your settings with a higher Take Profit 30 and 2 trades and 4 lots reducter... I tryed alot of different scenarios and this was the best... Trailing stop is something we need to figure out..... I think it might be the missing piece of the puzzle... Im just not smart enough to figure it out:mad::eek:ts is a good thing but it doesn't seem to work

Earl
11-09-2008, 10:42 PM
5 Minutes (M5) 2008.09.29 00:00 - 2008.11.06 23:55 (2008.09.29 - 2008.11.07)
Model Every tick (the most precise method based on all available least timeframes)
Parameters Lots=0; LotsRiskReductor=10; MaxOrders=1; MaxLots=6; StopTime=1; aaa=20; bbb=8; TakeProfit=20; StopLoss=350; TrailingStop=0; UseMAControl=1; PeriodMA=100; PriceMA_0_6=0; TypeMA_0_3=0; SpanGator=0.5; SlipPage=3; OrderMagic=231313; SafetyGapDemarker=0.2; SafetyGapWPR=0; StartWorkTimeHour=0; StartWorkTimeMin=0; EndWorkTimeHour=0; EndWorkTimeMin=0;
Bars in test 9265 Ticks modelled 722445 Modelling quality 90.00%
Mismatched charts errors 0
Initial deposit 3000.00
Total net profit 46959.12 Gross profit 95434.14 Gross loss -48475.02
Profit factor 1.97 Expected payoff 366.87
Absolute drawdown 570.80 Maximal drawdown 42190.60 (68.79%) Relative drawdown 68.79% (42190.60)
Total trades 128 Short positions (won %) 117 (96.58%) Long positions (won %) 11 (90.91%)
Profit trades (% of total) 123 (96.09%) Loss trades (% of total) 5 (3.91%)
Largest profit trade 1200.00 loss trade -21372.00
Average profit trade 775.89 loss trade -9695.00
Maximum consecutive wins (profit in money) 76 (56193.08) consecutive losses (loss in money) 1 (-21372.00)
Maximal consecutive profit (count of wins) 56193.08 (76) consecutive loss (count of losses) -21372.00 (1)


My apologies for the above mess, I couldn't figure out how to make it look good without staying up all night. I started with $3k and net profit was 46959.12 during the same period of time. I'd settle for that.

Between the handful of people back testing and posting the results you've really helped me find good settings, and I'm sure it's helped many others as well. Thank you!
looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KILL THE S/L BEFORE IT KILLS YOU..!!!LOL

retest and see 4 ur self

Short14
11-09-2008, 10:47 PM
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Earl
11-09-2008, 10:53 PM
Same period of time but your lots reductor is 10, I am trying to test with scenarios I am willing to use in a real account. I must be on crack...my LRR is set at 10 on both my live accounts!

LOL:eek:

Short14
11-09-2008, 11:06 PM
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Earl
11-09-2008, 11:14 PM
Not on Crack..... Just Braver.... I have gone to Vegas playing $50.00 a hand at BlackJack next to a guy playing $500.00 a hand... Its just your tolerance for risk..... I applaud your bravery.....YOUR THE HARE......IM THE TURTLE.... It just doesnt make sense to test with risky settings I won't use or account balances I don't have. My business was down about 30% the past 3 months ( Its picking back up thank goodness ) So I need to be frugal at this point in time..That is why I started playing in the Forex Market. My immediate goal is $5000.00 a month within 3 months with this hobby which I think is easily attainable.... I just want to see if it can be done...

10% risk is unheard of...on Alan other forum there is this character Mill that knows alot she would never risk more than 2% that is the written rule.

you just got to keep a positive attitude...the rich by when everu=yone else is jumping ship...rescue services run to danger when everyone else is running away.

earl wants to trade where most people would never go

xixkko
11-09-2008, 11:23 PM
Hi short14

that is great what you have achieved. You should be very proud

of course you're smart...time will tell youan



take care man

Nelstradamus
11-09-2008, 11:57 PM
Short14, I must say that the most successful traders I know are the ones who keep there trading risk at 2% and never more. With this Golden Rule you should be able to keep your trading alive and profitable for years to come with growing compounding profits.

Trade long and prosper!

Short14
11-10-2008, 12:14 AM
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Short14
11-10-2008, 12:22 AM
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Earl
11-10-2008, 12:53 AM
thats funny???

I didn't get that

Short14
11-10-2008, 01:02 AM
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Earl
11-10-2008, 01:12 AM
where did your post go?