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Old 12-19-2008, 08:58 AM
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Post FapTurbo not trading? Due to increased spread - NOT because of fapturbo!

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Hi guys.

Too many people recently speculate on the topic that spreads at IBFX and other brokers were increased to fight fapturbo users. That is NOT TRUE!!

Also I talked to several leading brokers today and all of them confirmed and ensured me that the spreads were increased due to GLOBAL market situation.

Try to "zoom out" of fapturbo and look on global market situation!

For example take a look on Daily


EurUSD increased from 1.2549 at 4decemeber
to 1.4719 week later at 18december that is 2100 (!!) PiPS increase in week and a half!
Same pips increase took YEAR AND A HALF in 2006-2007 and now it took just 1 week.
Do you think that is "normal situation"? or maybe caused by fapturbo?
This huge price movements are caused by Global Market Situation! That's why forex became more volatile temporary (!).

One more example. Today spread even on EURUSD was 6 (!!) instead of traditional 2 tonight at IBFX. NO FAPTURBO TRADERS trade on EURUSD!!! So fapturbo could not be the reason of course!!

That is global market situation. That is NOT THE END OF THE DAYS.

Right, fapturbo had hard time trading on increased spread last week.
However LESS TRADES does not mean LOST TRADES!
Please stop following the greed and start following the common sense.

If you are a newbie - remember - forex was created ages ago! It is here NOT FOR ONE or TWO weeks. If the system is profitable it will stay profitable for long time.

Please stop posting panic posts like "what if fapturbo stops working and we all die.." or "what if dollar stops existing and the end of days comes tomorrow" - that does not make any sense!!

We created a LONG TERM product and we are not going to "go away" and we continue developments and provide you with free updates! Steve is establishing good relations with broker and all honest brokers support fapturbo trading.


So please stop speculations on this issue. All topics with speculation and non-sense on this "spread increase caused by fapturbo" will be removed. Most of them are created by competitors filled by envy trying to ruin your success with fapturbo.
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:43 AM
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you are right, even though fapturbo was widely sold, it is still only used by minority of the traders (and it will always use only by a small portion of the traders)
besides, forex is not the only market, there are other markets affect the economics.
and the econimic turmoil could be a big factor.
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Excellent Post!
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Amen!
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Howdy officer. I been trying to tell everybody
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You mean...Euro/USD rallied 210 pips...not 2100. ...just for NoObs.

...but this kind of move can happen 1 and even twice a month...so be glad Turbo is not trading. If banks are not providing a liquid market in large swings then it will be voilent and spreads will widen everywhere.
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Most here don't remember when the Euro was introduced and George Soros...caused 200-400 pips in 1 day. I remember a 300 pip move in 30 min. So, this not childs play people. So a 100-200 pip move is about average if you look at the monthly chart. Moves like this are fairly common...but, what is special about this move is that the FED funds rate
is close to 0 causing banks to get scared and withdraw bid/offers caused a huge move due to light trading...thus spreads moved out of our favor. I said don't trade until the new year. I hope this makes sense to newbies. Light trading will make spread wider....not caused by FAPT--LOL
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:41 PM
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fapturbo seems to be all over the place and due to the success more and more a buying. If all these traders are taking these same positions, wouldn't it indeed affect the marketplace and counterparty trading?
That is traditional words our competitors will tell you on public forums: if many people use it then it will die very soon.

However lets follow the common sense again and make some calculations.

On one hand we have retail traders. According to statistics 67% of Forex Traders Deposit Between $50 to $1,000

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11.1% of traders choose to make a deposit between $1 to $5
8.3 % of traders deposit between $6 to $50
13.9% of traders make a deposit between $51 to $100
22.2% of forex traders deposit between $101 to $500
30.6% of traders choose to deposit between $501 to $1,000
5.6% of traders, last but not least, deposit more than $1,001 each time
According to statistics, 60% of buyers never start real trading (they buy and put it for "later, cause too busy now"), other 30% will trade ONLY on demo just for fun (or afraid to deposit real money) and only 10% will actually trade with real money.

Lets do simple math:
So even if 20K people buy fapturbo, only 10% or 2000 of them will really trade on real money.

So their sum deposits will be $500 (average deposit of retail broker) * 2000 = $ 1mln
From that money only 2-5% will be used for actual trading as everyone knows the rules: risk 2% of your capital. So total trades volume = 20K/day

On the other hand we have Forex market with a volume of over $4 trillion a DAY!!

from babypips i will quote:

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The Foreign Exchange market, also referred to as the "FOREX" or "Forex" or "Retail forex" or "FX" or "Spot FX" or just "Spot" is the largest financial market in the world, with a volume of over $4 trillion a day. If you compare that to the $25 billion a day volume that the New York Stock Exchange trades, you can easily see how enormous the Foreign Exchange really is. It actually equates to more than three times the total amount of the stocks and futures markets combined! Forex rocks!
Bottom line:

So on one hand we have fapturbo traders with $ 20K per day.
On other hand we have FOREX with $4 TRILLION a day

Now compare: 4 000 000 000 000 (4 TRILLION)
and 20 000 (fapturbo total)

that is ... 0.0000005% of total market

Do you think such tiny percent can influence the market and increase the spreads overnight and "turn the rivers back"? I really doubt

P.S. Sorry if I made some mistakes with math... just wanted to show the idea. you can make more accurate calculations if you want...


And don't worry - FAPTURBO and all other EAs can be used by small retail traders only with small deposits! No bank with millions of dollars can use it as it won't work for them!

FAPTURBO was created only for small retail traders like you and me with deposits under 1mln (average $500). No broker will let you trade millions of dollars with this strategy so no need to worry that huge banks will use it and ruin the system That does not make any sense!
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You mean...Euro/USD rallied 210 pips...not
Maybe I am noob (i dont consider myself an experienced super trader) however if I deduct
1.2549 from 1.4719 I get 2170 pips, not 210...

kick me if I am wrong

P.S. Of course, this is public forum and freedom of speach so everyone can say anything, however don't listen to our competitor trolls who make panic now and posts like "fapturbo is dead already as it caused the spread increase.."

Follow the common sense! And lets win together while these worms just spend time complaining and crying around

Sorry if I sound offensive again...

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