I appreciate your comments Ken I think I will change some of my indicators on my demo account and see what happens. I am also concerned with the large SL . I have tried different settings but it looks like it doesn't recongnize the settings I set. Almost like those settings are preset and what ever I set it too doesn't matter. Well here goes nothing, good thing we have demo accounts to see for ourselfs what happens when we do make some settings changes. Thanks Ken, I enjoyed all your comments and I'll see how these turn out Fieldman